Claudia La Rocco

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Season 7, Episode 7

Esteemed critic and poet Claudia La Rocco speaks to Lauren Wetmore about being a “dance partisan” and how “language can nail things down in a way that dance doesn’t.” This wide-ranging conversation touches on artists including Mikhail Baryshnikov, Simone Forti, and Moriah Evans, through critics including Jill Johnston and Megan Metcalf, to consider how dance and writing move through different institutions and histories. La Rocco reads American choreographer Susan Rethorst’s “Dailiness” from A Choreographic Mind: Autobodygraphical Writings (University of the Arts, Helsinki, 2015), which she describes as a text that “was formative for me but still fits me pretty well, and relates to both how I think about writing, and what is so special about dance.”

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Niela Orr

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Season 7, Episode 6

Niela Orr is a culture writer and editor who has published in The Baffler, The Believer, and The Organist, among others. Since 2022 she has worked as an editor at the New York Times Magazine. In conversation with Sky Goodden, Orr discusses her editing as being rooted in service, and her abiding sense of responsibility to the writers that she works with. Orr foregrounds this conversation with a reading from Unexplained Presence (Leon Works, 2007; Wave Books, 2024), by Tisa Bryant, a former mentor of hers. She also talks about the profound pleasure and significance of reading fiction and poetry. “If I’m not reading poetry, I feel like I’m losing access to possibility,” she says. And in turn, Orr says, “I write for patient readers.”

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Joshua Schwebel

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Season 7, Episode 5

Joshua Schwebel speaks to long-time collaborator Lauren Wetmore about their shared interest in closing the gap between how art is discursively framed and what it actually does. Schwebel’s artistic practice stems from a deep need to understand the world, coupled with an allergy to authority. “Art is rhetorically positioned as radical,” notes Schwebel, “but what we’re doing is advancing capitalism for people who benefit from it and this is not in our interest as artists or workers.” With Nizan Shaked’s Museums and Wealth: The Politics of Contemporary Art Collections (Bloomsbury, 2022) as a prompt, Schwebel and Wetmore talk about their upcoming book project, The Employee (forthcoming from Art Metropole in 2025). They also discuss The Paydirt Seminars, a series of talks dedicated to examining the intersections between art, finance, and resource extraction that Schwebel has organized as part of his current exhibition One Hand Washes the Other at Struts Gallery in Sackville, New Brunswick.

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Carolina A. Miranda

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Season 7, Episode 4

Carolina A. Miranda, a longtime L.A. Times staff culture writer who has recently returned to the wilds of freelance, speaks to Sky Goodden about looking at things from both sides now. In working on a book proposal about the year she spent in Chile following the fall of Pinochet’s dictatorship, and in exploring new genres of writing for different publications, Miranda is changing the focus of her attention. After so many years of writing-as-response, she reflects on the value of sustained research into one subject. “I’d been wanting to explore new directions I could take my writing, and at the L.A. Times, there are certain limitations to the form.” Taking a more personal approach with her book, she’s thinking about “how do artists survive an autocracy? Culture can teach us about the moment, but also point a way forward.”

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Fargo Nissim Tbakhi

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Season 7, Episode 3

Palestinian-American artist and writer Fargo Nissim Tbakhi speaks with Lauren Wetmore about the political implication of form through two texts: Tbakhi’s own piece “Notes on Craft: Writing in the Hour of Genocide” (Protean Magazine, 2023), and Iranian-American poet Solmaz Sharif’s “The Near Transitive Properties of the Political and Poetical: Erasure” (The Volta, 2013). “In times of extreme crisis we end up bumping against particular limitations of art,” reflects Tbakhi, while also reminding us that “the idea of artistic engagement with moments of crisis has been curtailed and limited by state powers and oppressive ideologies in many different forms.” This episode continues the Podcast’s platforming of Palestinian voices in line with Momus’s ongoing commitment to PACBI.

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An Inflection Point in Art Publishing

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Season 7, Episode 2

Earlier this year, the Momus editorial team gathered for a talk at Plural Art Fair in Montreal. It marked the first time Sky Goodden, Catherine G. Wagley, Jessical Lynne, and Merray Gerges were all together IRL. The lively conversation touched on how we’ve shifted from a discourse of “crisis” in art criticism to its material reality; the ethics of editorial care; and how to address the need for mentorship across all stages of a writer’s career.

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Elvia Wilk

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Season 7, Episode 1

Launching Season 7, Elvia Wilk, an essayist, critic, and novelist, talks to Sky Goodden about the decision to quit writing—if only to be able to start again. In discussing rejection, the changing conditions of the field, and the denuding of successful female writers, Wilk also touches on the authors who have modelled quitting (“the authors of the ‘no'”), or who have mitigated against their own exposure, including Olivia Sudjic, Enrique Vila-Matas. Rachel Cusk, and Elena Ferrante.

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Lara Khaldi

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Season 6, Episode 8

Lara Khaldi is our final guest on Season 6 of Momus: The Podcast. A curator, artist, writer, and educator, Khaldi was born in Jerusalem, Palestine, and currently lives in Amsterdam, where she has been newly appointed as director of de Appel. In this episode, Khaldi speaks to Lauren Wetmore about the Palestinian American artist, activist, and scholar Samia A. Halaby’s book “Liberation Art of Palestine: Palestinian Painting and Sculpture in the Second Half of the 20th Century” (H. T. T. B. Publications, 2001). Both Khaldi and Halaby assert that art is a critical part of the Palestinian struggle for liberation. Although representation may feel impossible in the context of the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, Khaldi urges that “the least we can do is talk about it, because the more we speak, the truth is said.”

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Nasrin Himada

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Season 6, Episode 7

For the 50th (!) episode of Momus: The Podcast, Lauren Wetmore speaks to Nasrin Himada, a Palestinian curator and writer who is currently associate curator at the Agnes Etherington Art Centre at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. “I write for my people. I write for Palestinians, and I write for the liberation of our lands,” Himada says of their practice, which foregrounds “embodiment as method, desire as transformation, and liberation through many forms.” Wetmore and Himada discuss esteemed Caribbean-Canadian poet and writer M. NourbeSe Philip’s text, “Interview with an Empire” (2003), thinking through how Philip teaches us to decontaminate language from imperialism so that it can “truly speak our truths.” Himada touches on strategies, including artistic experimentation, collective action, and love.

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Jessica Lynne and Catherine G. Wagley

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Season 6, Episode 6

In this episode, Jessica Lynne speaks with Catherine G. Wagley about their shared love for Barbara Christian’s iconically confrontational essay, “The Race for Theory” (1987, Cultural Critique). Christian, a ground-laying literary academic who introduced writers like Toni Morrison and Alice Walker to the academe, goes toe to toe with her peers in this essay, rebuking the constraints and monolith of French theory and championing the approach of learning from the language of creative writers “as a way to discover what language I might use.” In it, Christian both names and demonstrates the power of critique from within the institution, and its effective complement to calls for empowerment. And as Lynne and Wagley reflect on how criticism functions through a sense of curiosity and openness in both their practices, Lynne says, “it’s an intervening hand, right? Like, look at all these other planes that we could be living in. And, why not go there? Like, let’s go there. In fact, we know writers who are already there. We know artists who are already there.”

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